HASSL joins “It’s A Lot” with Abbie Chatfield - taking the conversation global
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This week, HASSL founder Amy Watson joined Australian broadcaster and activist Abbie Chatfield on her award-winning podcast It’s A Lot - one of the most listened-to shows across Australia and beyond.
Together, they had an open and honest conversation about the realities of advocating for women’s rights whilst facing constant online abuse, and the toll it takes on those pushing for change. Both Amy and Abbie shared personal experiences of navigating backlash, harassment, and the online hostility that so often silences women who speak out - and how that shared experience fuels their drive to keep going.
The episode dives deep into the reality of harassment, misogyny, and the cultural systems that enable it. Together, Amy and Abbie discussed how conversations around women’s safety have been oversimplified for too long - focusing on “what women should do” instead of addressing why harm happens in the first place.
Amy shared how HASSL is reframing this issue entirely: shifting the focus from individual safety tools and “stay safe” advice to prevention, education, and accountability at a societal level. The discussion explored how digital culture fuels harmful norms, why men must be part of the solution, and how HASSL’s five-stage plan builds scalable, systemic change.
This conversation matters for more than awareness - it’s about impact at scale. Podcasts like It’s A Lot allow HASSL to reach new, international audiences and engage listeners who may never have come across our work before. They help us break down complex social issues in an accessible way, transforming awareness into understanding and empathy into action. It’s A Lot is in the top 0.05% most popular shows out of over 3.6 million podcasts worldwide.
It’s also a huge credibility moment: being featured alongside leading voices in gender equality shows the growing recognition of HASSL’s prevention-first model as a global example of grassroots innovation.
As we continue to expand internationally, these opportunities are crucial. They help us educate new audiences, attract potential partners, and inspire others to join the movement - all at zero marketing cost.
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